I recently read a post by a fellow blogger (I'm following her, and highly recommend her blog), about whether or not chivalry is dead. Please read these ones before continuing on mine.
Here's the first one.
Here's her awesome response to some of our feedback.
She really has it nailed down with respect to the Mormon culture. I was very impressed. Her manner of writing is very down to earth, and liberal enough to really say things the way they are. I appreciate that a lot.
Right now, I'm going to directly quote yet another fellow blogger, Heartiste. I'm going to paraphrase a few of his lines as not to offend my entire audience. I don't recommend reading Heartiste to the ladies, as much of it might be extremely offensive. Also, I don't want anyone to think that I'm focusing on the sexual aspects of social dynamics, but rather the psychological. Honestly, my readers thus far are all very chill and mature enough to read this stuff anyway. I appreciate that as well.
DISCLAIMER- I agree with Heartiste up to a certain degree, in pretty much everything he writes. There is definitely a different spin on it within our peculiar Mormon culture that should be taken into consideration.
A reader asked if there were any books I could recommend that explored the psychology of women. I suggested “Story of O” and “9 1/2 Weeks”. (The latter was originally a book which is much better than the movie version.)
There is a maxim among the pick-up community that if you want to know what women want it’s better to watch what they do than listen to what they say. Very true. However, if you are going to listen to what a woman says for clues about her innermost desires, or read what she writes, you would do well to pay attention to what a woman says TURNS HER ON. Not what she says she wants in a hypothetical husband or boyfriend but what she specifically describes that got her [physically and emotionally excited]. Any editorial commentary about the ideal man can be safely ignored.
The two books above, both written by women and featuring very beautiful female protagonists, are wide-open windows to the id of women’s sexual natures. What we find there is shocking to most, dispiriting to some, and unsurprising to a few. Women reading these books will, despite themselves, become uncomfortably aroused. Men will discover ancient stirrings within themselves they may have thought civilization and a PC academic indoctrination stamped out.
The beatings and brandings the women in the books suffer, provoke, and then eagerly anticipate in turn are distractions from the main message, which is that the self-confidence and exquisitely suffocating domination of the male characters caused the women to fall so helplessly in love with them that the men could do anything, make any demand, and the women would happily go along just to keep their love. Some men can handle this awesome power, some can’t. The man in 9 1/2 Weeks was consumed by his power as much as his lover, and it got the better of him.
These books, taken together with the real world observations of men who actually live lives like those of the men in the books, tell us what women want.
They want a man who takes charge.
A master.
Adopt the attitude of the master, and women will revert to their naturally submissive essence faster and more profoundly than you can scarcely imagine, and no amount of feminist propaganda, insulating credentials, or careerist ladder climbing will stand in the way of their joyous, even relieving, surrender to your intoxicating dominance and confidence.
Gregory George,
ReplyDeleteI completely agree, with everything. I want that guy that opens the door for me, that stays after to help clean up, opens my car door, and doesn’t stand there watching me clean the snow off my car. Boys in my ward did this a couple Sundays ago. I was cleaning off my car before church, and they all stood there and watched me, and these were all man-boys that I thought were nice, respectable RMs, but they instantly turned into major d-bags in a not sexy way in my head.
I also want that guy that takes charge. Nothing is sexier than a guy that has a plan. A set plan for the date, a plan for his education, a plan for his life, and that completely trusts in Heavenly Father’s plan for eternal life.
I think that it is wrong to say that guy that takes charge, and a guy that is going to treat me with “old school” manners are conflicting ideas.
I think that by living worthily to hold the priesthood is that balance. As a priesthood holder you take charge of situations, with the guidance of the Spirit. You are going to provide for your family, for your wife, both temporally and spiritually. You are going to set the standard by which your family will depend on. You are going to teach your kids to love all of God's children, even if it is seemingly inconvenient to hold the door open, because you'll be doing the work of Heavenly Father, and letting His children know that they are important enough to have someone do that small act of kindness. Even if they are not grateful for it. I don't think it should stop with just doing these nice things for girls, and I think girls need to remember to do it for others also.
Personally, the men I’m attracted to are the guys showing up early to church, wearing a **white** shirt, they pass the sacrament (YSA ward), and then come in to put away the chairs in the Relief Society room after the block is over.. because I know they are going to be the men that take charge in life, because they are taking care of business now, and I have faith that they will be the man that puts forth that same kind of effort outside of church.
At the same time, if he doesn’t have a plan for life. Doesn’t know where he wants to go in life other than to the celestial kingdom and eventual exaltation, well flip! Get outta town, because that is just so girly to me. How is he going to be a good provider, if he can’t decide how he’s going to do it.
All girls want a man that they can depend on to provide for them and their eventual family together. I used to think the girls that went to school and that all they wanted to do was be a stay at home mom were absolutely ridiculous and a complete waste of scholarship money. In a sense they are, but the more I learn about myself the more I realize I want to be one of them.. but I want to be able to contribute to my family past that nurturing and loving role. I want to be able to legitimately help with math, science and history homework, and just pray that my kids are naturally gifted at English and love them if they aren't. It's why I'm still in school, and I don't have a "future mom major." I think it's important that both parents contribute. I'm already blessed with attributes that are going to help me be a good mom, why not do something that is going to help me be the beset mom?
And this is a freaking novel of a comment. Sorry, I just really went off, and probably in a fruitless direction. Haha but seriously Greg, you’re my favorite.. and I LOVE your blog.
love,
erica
I originally wrote this as a comment, but it seemed WAAYYY too long. So instead, I posted it to my blog. Here you go: http://leenichole.blogspot.com/2012/03/what-this-woman-wants.html
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